![]() ![]() Hwo is scary when he’s directly in your face. Lili is all about whiff punishment and movement. Hwaorang is an A tier (upper mid, on a list with S and S+ tiers) Though you can’t compare him with Lili since they’re totally different characters. I said B or A, I think B is probably more suited. Trying to improve more in SFV If Lili is A tier what is hwo's tier ? Please compare them I don’t mind you don’t agree, that’s the charm of discussions you know ) I wish you all the best, maybe we will meet in game sometime! (I’m usually in unranked quick player matches nowadays). We don’t have to agree and I don’t expect we will hahaha. I respect yours, I gave my point of view in return. I know the characer and know her strengths and weaknesses. Kane as his, you have yours, LooneyLili has hers, I have mine. Though a tier placement is always just an opinion. He is indeed one of the better Lili players out there. Originally posted by Steezeboi:I’m one of her mods bruh -P I fully respect Kane’s opinion too. Though I stand by my word, Lili is not weak anymore at all. People want to auto pilot, not think and win with 0 effort. The fact players want weaknesses flextaped and removed is why certain characters are so overpowered nowadays. That’s a player skill, and a character flaw. The player is supposed to use movement and realign a lot with her. Yes Lili is linear but that’s also part of her character identity. She can 50/50 mixup that now with ff4 (both are 22F). Her df1 actually works as intended now, which is also great for Lili. Which is awesome for a character build around sidestepping. It helps her close range pressure and is a decent starter for offense now.į3 being -3 on block now enables her to utilize movement much more. Whoever says that is a f*cking idiot lmfao. Experiment with her more, she’s far from ♥♥♥♥.Īnd no. From what I read, you’re enourmously downplaying her rn. I don’t personally play the character a lot but I know the matchup very well since I play against her (LooneyLili) a lot (on stream too) Lili is not weak anymore at all. Except that unlike bob, Lili is actually still crap while bob is pretty good (just not top tier good). Same nonsense hysteria like when bob got buffed.Ģ weeks later no one gave a crap about bob anymore and all the new bob players dropped him again. How in gods name are her buffs "insane"? Makes no sense. ![]() Maybe it's f+3 being -3 now like another dude was blabbering about? Even tho that doesn't fix the main issues of this move, mainly having poor range and being too slow to make people stop stepping effectively. Or is it f+4? A pretty standard mid ch without any crazy special properties. This is the general theme for lili, she risks a ton for no payoff.Īre you part of the idiots that say her d1,2 is like hwo's d3,4 now? Even tho it's nothing like it cuz she doesn't have 500 follow up mixups from it. What's the risk she takes? Getting launched cuz the second hit is a high. These two flaws have not been fixed by buffing her the way that she has been buffed.ĭ1,2 what's her reward? 18 damage and +3 which she can barely make any use of. Here's the deal with lili, her two main issues are that she constantly has to take huge risks for very little reward and she's the most linear character in this game. I assume you don't understand the character. Others in A are on par or better then her. She’s better then anyone in B pretty much. ![]()
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